Sully District Council of Citizens Associations
P.O. Box 230042
Sully Station, VA 20120-0042
Notes from the 26 July 2017 Joint Sully District Land Use and Transportation Committee
by Jeff Parnes, Land Use Committee Chair
- ATTENDANCE:
Sully District Council of Citizen Associations representatives:
x- Mark McConn, President, Bull Run
- Lewis Grimm, 2nd Vice President, Franklin Farm
- Jeff Parnes, 1st Vice President, Chantilly Highlands
- Jim Neighbors, Secretary, Sully Station I
Western Fairfax County Citizen Association members:
- Carol Hawn
- Chrfis Terpak Maln
- John Litzenberger
- Ted Troscianecki, Virginia Run
Presenters/Guests:
- Bryan Palmer, HCR Manor Care
- Jonathan Bondi, Pennoni
- Les Adkins, Wells & Assoc
- Lori Greenlief, McGuire Woods
- Mike Kitchen, Christopher
- William Matarazzo, COPT
- Zach Williams, Bean, Kinney
- CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order by Sully District Council of Citizens Associations Land Use and Transportation Committee chair Carol Hawn at 7:00 PM.
- MEETING ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Refer to the July Joint Sully District Land Use and Transportation Committee
agenda for meeting announcements.
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- No Sully District Council membership meeting is scheduled for July 2017. The Membership does not meet in the summer and the next meeting will be held in September
- LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE:
- 7:00 -- Arden Courts Memory Care Facility and a day care facility
- Proponent: Mark Viani, Bean, Kinney & Korman P.C.
- Action: The applicant (Arden Courts of Centreville) proposing the assisted living facility and daycare center near Compton Village has more daycare center details for their application now that include changes to Rt. 28
- Location: The property is located in Compton Village at the intersection of Bradenton Drive and Route 28
- From the On-line Land Use and Transportation Committee Presentation Registration Form:
- Exempt: Is Not
- Statement Acknowledged: N/A
- Description: The project involves a new Arden Courts Memory Care Facility and a day care facility. The application includes a final development plan amendment and proffered condition amendment.
- Previously heard at our June 2017 meeting the applicant would like to come back before the Sully District Land Use committee to present a revised plan which drops the day care facility from the application
- The site is currently planned for an 800-seat church which the church owners wish to sell. The revised plans retains the Memory Care facility, but removes the day care originally proposed which brought out the Compton Village board and residents in opposition. Their objections centered on traffic, and the fact that a newly opened day care facility invalidated the need for one here.
- The usage associated with the day care center will remain unused and convey with the property to be developed sometime in the future (the unused density is identified as a medical care facility, as is the proposed memory care facility).
- The Compton Village board seems to satisfied with this revised proposal
- Q/A
- The developers do not wish to make their facility larger to use the FAR available by not building the day care center.
- At the July meeting it was requested for the developer to provide a contour or elevation map to show how the development was handling the height difference from RT 28 to Compton Village Drive. Although the map was not provided they indicated that they will provide the map under separate cover.
- The Planning Commission hearing date is in September.
- When would construction start? 2018 -- finish in 2020
- No change in parking on Compton Village Drive
- Recommendations: By a vote of the respective memberships the SDCCA had no objection, while WFCCA support was conditioned on their receipt of the requested contour map.
The contour map was subsequently furnished with the following comments: When we presented our application at the Sully Land Use Committee meeting on July 26, 2017, the committee asked if we could provide some cross-section elevations to demonstrate the view of the proposed Arden Courts development from the perspective of the townhomes directly to the south of the site. Our civil engineers prepared the attached cross-section elevations for the committee's review and consideration. Please let me know if the committee would like any additional information.
- 7:40 -- PCA 85-S-061-05 (COPT Parkstone LLC)
- Proponent: Lori Greenlief Senior Land Use Planner, McGuireWoods LLP
- Action: Proffer condition amendment application to alter an approved plan for office buildings on a site zoned I-3
- Location: Westfield
- From the On-line Land Use and Transportation Committee Presentation Registration Form:
- Exempt: Is
- Statement Acknowledged: N/A
- Description: PCA filed by COPT Parkstone to develop two office buildings on vacant property off of Parkstone Drive which is off of Conference Center Drive. Property is already zoned I-3 which allows office use. The applicant wants to change the site layout from what was previously approved in 2006.
- COPT, an owner in Westfields has filed a proffer condition amendment application to alter an approved plan for office buildings on a site zoned I-3 in Westfield. The property is NOT subject to the Westfield proffers, but to a different set of proffers known as the Steinberg proffers.
- They have filed the application and have received initial comments from staff. The Planning Commission public hearing is scheduled for 19 Oct. 19. The plan to make a preliminary presentation this month and then again in October.
- They have provided a colored site plan for the proposed COPT PCA.
- Briefly, their request is to amend the approved office plan for the COPT property to revert back, more or less, to a plan that was approved back in 2000. They have provided the statement of justification that they filed which explains the background of this property.
- They propose rearranging the already approved buildings to have them collocated so they share common amenities. Each is building 165000 sq ft
- Does this eliminate a possible cut through to Braddock Road -- the Braddock Road neighbors don't want that, it will have to be elsewhere.
- Why do they think they will be successful while others weren't? They believe moving the buildings together will make them more serviceable.
- No construction date -- they have no tenants as of yet. But the closeness to the LUGA just across Conference Center Drive may have changed the market.
- This site is under the Dulles approach routes and mixed use might not be suitable for Westfield, and so this use makes sense.
- Recommendations: By a vote of the respective memberships the SDCCA had no objection, while the WFCCA support was unconditional.
- 8:20 -- FCDOT Transportation Priorities Plan
- Proponent: Jeffrey Parnes Sully Transportation Advisory Commission (TAC)
- Action: Review of the county's Transportation Priorities Plan
- Location: Countywide
- Fairfax County Department of Transportation Director Tom Biesiadny asked the TAC for input on the county's proposed Transportation Priorities Plan (TPP).
- He provided three handouts, a brief on the TPP (pdf or pptx), and two lists of proposed improvements, the first containing shorter list of higher priority improvements and the other a longer list of lower priority improvements.
- Jeff asked asked the committee's views on Tom's queries:
- On the Outreach Effort: what would be the best communication tools/outreach ideas/suggestions to reach out to the people in Fairfax County, especially the people that we dont normally interact with on transportation issues?
- On the Short TPP list: is there anything that should be included in the Short list from the Long (Master)
- On the Long or Master TPP list: is there anything that missing from the list or should be included in the Long list?
- Both lists are DRAFT lists. The Long list is attached in a DRAFT Excel spread sheet format. From that sheet, you can sort by district and sort the projects that were forwarded for consideration in FY 18-23. The column ACTION it will indicate if the project was forwarded for consideration, which indicates that project is on the short list. Please be advise this sheet is a work in progress and changes frequently.
- The following questions were raised in another district - here are the questions and the responses that Jeff provided.
- Q: Who decides what projects make this list? Is it county staff? Supervisors of that district? The TAC committee?
- Q: How does a project get selected from the long list" to the short list?" Is that county staff? Is that supervisors? Is that TAC committee appointees?
- Q: Who ranks the priority level for each project?
- In essence the answer was the same for each query - county staff with input from the supervisors - the TAC was not involved until this request was received from the director.
- There was no clear consensus of what modifications to the lists should be made. Jeff indicated he would go forward with two suggestions, left-turns lanes at the intersection of Old Lee and Braddock Road, and the construction of the missing portions of McLearen Road from West Ox Road to Money's Corner.
- ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at approximately 9:00 p.m.
Respectively submitted by
Jeff Parnes
Land Use Committee Chair
Sully District Council
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