18 November 2015 Sully District Council Meeting Minutes
18 November 2015 Sully District Council Meeting Minutes
by Jim Neighbors, Secretary
- CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Council President Mark McConn at 7:00 PM.
- The minutes for the Oct 2015 Sully District Council are available online.
- Refer to the November agenda for meeting announcements.
- SULLY DISTRICT COUNCIL TWEETS!
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- Membership Presentation starting at 7:00:
- Membership Topic: Silver Line - Phase 1 operational update and Phase 2 progress (pdf) (pptx) presented by Mark G. Canale, Chief Special Projects Division, Dulles Rail Project Manager, Fairfax County Department of Transportation
- Notes: Mr. Canale gave a comprehensive view of the Silver Line. One item was the parking garages. Fairfax County will follow Metro guidance with parking fees but Loudoun County parking will be based on the market.
- LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE
- 8:30 -- Home-child care Debra E. Goodman d/b/a Wee Tender Cares
- Proponent: Debra E. Goodman, County staff assigned Sharon Williams, Staff Coordinator, SP/VC Branch, Zoning Evaluation Division, DPZ
- Action: Special exception SE 2015-SU-014 to allow Home child-care
- Location: 13565 Melville Lane, Chantilly, VA 20151
- Notes: The council had no issue with this special exemption.
- 9:00 -- Comprehensive Sign Plan Amendment for apartments at Discovery Square
- Proponent: Sara V. Mariska, Walsh Colucci Lubeley & Walsh PC
- Action: Comprehensive Sign Plan amendment for the multifamily building that is under construction
- Location: Discovery Square (Atlantis Ave and Centreville Rd, Oak Hill, VA)
Lincoln Property Company has submitted a Comprehensive Sign Plan amendment for the multifamily building that is under construction at Discovery Square. The proposed Comprehensive Sign Plan Amendment proposes building identification signs and incidental signs identifying parking, emergency access, and the like. Attached for convenient reference are
- These were circulated to residents of Chantilly Highlands and Franklin Farm, the two subdivisions on the east side of Centreville Road opposite the apartment building. Comments were received from two residents and conveyed to Sara. Below are the comments and, where applicable, Sara's response:
On sheet 5 of the signage plan, each floor level was marked with a distance measure, but as the second level started with a marking of 71.33', the committee requested to an explanation of the markings. Sara responded with an explanation.
- Resident: My initial sense is that they are trying to light up Centreville Road with their signage. If I read correctly they want the massive name sign to be illuminated and run the height of the building for about 38
feet. I think that is UNREASONABLE and excessive! I was trying to find which direction that sign would face and fell short of locating streets that reflected that position. If I am incorrect and that sign
will not face Centreville Road then I don't think I would care so much, but from something I read I got the sense that the developer is afraid someone is going to drive past the buildings and miss it.
The other signs were again not clear to me of which direction they will face. If the parking signs and such are all interior to the
development (at this point I have no idea how many deviations away we are from the original design I had seen months ago due to their
requests for alterations) I probably don't care so much. I really don't want this to look like Tysons Mall with the giant illuminated signs, and again I feel that they are not providing enough of the
critical information for us to make an informed decision - lack of schematics that show the placement of signs relative to Centreville
Road and the overall current facility design.
- Response:There will be a single building identification sign on Centreville Road. The size of the sign was based upon the length of the building facade and the size and speed of Centreville Road. All other signs along Centreville Road are incidental signs that will not exceed 4 square feet of sign area.
Attached is exhibit showing the proposed sign in the context of the entire building facade along Centreville Road. The building facade on Centreville Road (which is parallel to Neil Armstrong Avenue) is approximately 525 feet in length. As you well know, Centreville Road is a 4-lane divided highway with a posted speed limit of 45 miles per hour. Based upon industry standards, this sign is actually appropriate for a 2-lane, 40 miles per hour roadway.
I hope that this exhibit and information is helpful. I will also note that Staff is recommending approval of the application. Let me know if you do have more questions.
- Resident: Interesting sign design concept plan being proposed for the new high density residential building. I am not personally opposed to the signage plan as generally described on the original set of attachments. With that said, however, I would offer my personal comment that this type of residential structure signing is generally viewed as being more appropriate for application to buildings located in a much higher density development area than that found on the west side of Centreville Road across from the single family Chantilly Highlands community. If the structure were located within or immediately adjacent to the Reston Town Center or in the Tysons area, the proposed signage plan would probably be a better "visual fit". I think it will be interesting to hear the proponents arguments in favor of the plan amendment as well as any Fairfax County Planning & Zoning staff comments.
- I write to follow up on the mysterious numbers on the sign plan. After some discussion with the engineer, I think we have figured it out:
On the site plan, there are so many different numbers that have to be shown on the plan, that often times the first digit is omitted if the elevations are simply spot elevations. The elevation of the first floor of this building as at approximately 360 feet above mean sea level. What we think happened is that the sign company looked at a spot elevation that omitted the first digit of "3." Accordingly, the elevation of the second level should be 371.33, the third should be 381.98, etc.
- Notes: The council had no issue with the signage plan.
- Fairfax Federation Seeks Nominations for Fairfax County 2015 Citizen of the Year
- The Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations is
soliciting nominations for its 2015 Fairfax County Citizen of the Year.
Each year, a selection committee of county-wide organizations meets to
review nominations for the Federation's "Citizen of the Year" and merit
awards. The winners are honored at our annual banquet, planned for 3
- Both the Citizen of the Year Award and the Citation of
Merit recognize and honor those citizens whose voluntary contributions
of time and talent resulted in major accomplishments that have enhanced
the quality of life for citizens of Fairfax County.
- Nominees must be current residents of Fairfax County.
- Elected officials and full-time county or commonwealth
employees are ineligible for consideration if their contributions are
related to their full-time positions.
- The Citizen of the Year is recognized for voluntary acts that are not related to employment.
- Contributions and accomplishments must have countywide rather than local significance.
- The nominee's achievements can be either:
- General, such as multi-year community service with one or more
organizations or activities with cumulative impact over the years of
current importance or with positive implications for the future, or
- Specific, including intense efforts as the major promoter of a single program or project completed in a finite period of time.
- Persons whose contributions of time and talent resulted in
major accomplishments that have enhanced the quality of life for
citizens of Fairfax County, who do not meet the published eligibility
standards for the Citizen of the Year consideration, may still be
honored by the Federation. Please submit information about these
nominees on the nomination form, indicating that this is an alternative
- Nominations will be accepted from 1 December 2015 to 31
January 2016. The nomination form is available online from the
Federation's website, http://www.fairfaxfederation.org.
- The Federation, established in 1940, is the countywide voice
for homeowner, civic, and community associations. An all-volunteer
organization, the Federation works on issues that impact Fairfax County
residents, including education, transportation, environment, human
services, land use, county budget, and county, state and federal
- For more information please contact Jeff Parnes, Awards Committee Chair.
NEXT MEMBERSHIP MEETING - Wednesday, 16 December 2015
This meeting is on the third Wednesday of the month so as not conflict with Christmas
- Membership Topic: Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Department: Countywide trends and Sully statistics
- Land Use and Transportation Committee:
- 8:30 -- Lakeside Apartments: Maintenance Building
- Proponent: Centrewood Drive Apartments, Inc., represented by Andrew A. Painter, Walsh, Colucci, Lubeley & Walsh, P.C.
- Action: Final Development Plan Amendment FDPA 81-S -058-01-02
- Location: Centrewood Drive Apartments, Inc, 14301 Summer Tree Rd, Centreville, VA 20121
The Applicant is seeking to replace an existing covered carport with a two-story 1,152-square foot maintenance facility. The carport had been enclosed in recent years to store maintenance items (e.g., lawnmowers, mulch, etc.). While this provided a temporary solution for maintenance needs, the proposed facility will be a more permanent, context-appropriate facility which will provide more space. The proposed maintenance facility will complement the architectural design of the surrounding apartments. No changes to the internal circulation pattern are proposed; the site is already built-out, and Lakeside will continue to be accessed via Machen Road and Centrewood Drive. The existing internal pedestrian circulation pattern and four private drives (Summer Pond Drive, Morning Dove Lane, Cattail Lane, and Summer Tree Road) will continue to provide access to the community.
The meeting adjourned at approximately 9:00 p.m.
Respectively submitted by,
Sully District Council
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