Sully District Council of Citizens Associations

P.O. Box 230042
Sully Station, VA 20120-0042

Agenda for 15 August 2022 Joint Sully District Land Use and Transportation Committee (JSDLU&TC) Meeting
by Jeff Parnes

1. The Joint Sully District Land Use and Transportation Committee Meeting will meet in person at 7:00 p.m. on 15 August 2022 at the Sully Government Facility Meeting Room, 4900 Stonecroft Boulevard, Chantilly, VA, 20151. This meeting is conducted with participation by members of both the Land Use and Transportation committees of the SDCCA and WFCCA
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3. The Joint Sully District Land Use and Transportation Committee Meeting will have a online option. The WebEx meeting URL is below.
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5. Jim Neighbors, the Sully District Council Secretary, maintains the JSDLU&TC Land Use Matrix.

6. The Sully District Council of Citizens Associations Membership meeting is scheduled for 28 September 2022
   • Topics: TBD
     • Congressman Connolly has indicated he will not participate in a Congressional Candidates night held by the League of Women Voters, Fairfax Area
   
   
7. Joint Sully Land Use and Transportation Committee topics:
   
   • In light of an amendment to the Code of Virginia, the county has provided us with a statement be to read when our land use committee meets with a prospective applicant for a rezoning or proffer condition amendment (PCA) for new residential development and/or new residential use in areas of the County that are not exempt from Virginia Code Section 15.2-2303.4. It is recommended that if our committee is meeting with more than one applicant to read this statement for each rezoning/PCA.
   • All times estimates are provided as a courtesy, presentations will start after the completion of the proceeding presentation, however long it takes. Recommend that presenters be ready at least 30 minutes prior to their scheduled time.
   • Prospective presenters are requested to register on the Land Use and Transportation Committee Presentation Registration Form as a condition of their presentation.
   
   
   • The Joint Sully Land Use and Transportation Committee (JSDLU&TC) will meet on Monday, 15 August 2022..
     • 7:00 — Parking reimagined
     • County Staff presenting will be:
     • William (Bill) Mayland, Deputy Zoning Administrator
     • Michael Davis, Parking Program Manager
     • Austin Gastrell, Planner II
     • For more information: Parking Reimagined Webpage
     • Lewis Grimm, our vice-president, has provided this background information white paper on Parking Reimagined
     • 8:00 — McDonalds PCA and SEA application to repurpose an existing drive-through bank pad site located within the Village Center Shopping Center
     • From the Joint Sully District Land Use and Transportation Committee Presentation Request Application Form:
       • Proponent: Sheri L. Akin, AICP, McGuireWoods LLP
       • Proposal: McDonalds has filed a PCA and SEA application with Fairfax County to repurpose an existing drive-through bank pad site located within the Village Center Shopping Center. If approved, McDonalds will move from its existing location within the in-lines stores to the remodeled drive-through pad site located at the northern most corner of the shopping center, at the intersection of Stone Road and Braddock Road.
       • Location: Village Center Shopping Center, Tax Map No. 54-1-((17))-E. 5601 Stone Road, Centreville, Va
       • Exempt: Is
       • Read Statement: Not Applicable
     • Jim Hart has provided these suggestions help focus the discussion:
       • Proffers/promises — The original bargain with the community, to get this shopping center approved on a very questionable site embedded in residential, very close to homes, was "no fast food drive through," no McDonalds or Roy Rogers. The developer eventually got a do-over for an inline McDonalds. (They tried but withdrew a controversial fast food drive through at least once, about 20 years ago, at the southern end.) What justifies the applicant repudiating the initial deal now? "Industry trends?" "Convenience?" What about the folks who relied on the proffers and made lifetime investments in their homes? How do they benefit from this change? How long are developers' promises supposed to last, just until "industry trends" tempt applicants to change the deal?
       • Traffic conflicts/geometry — Traffic is already bad along Braddock Rd and Stone Rd, and probably increasing from Loudoun down to the new mixing bowl. Doesn't concentrating the fast food drive through exiting traffic at a congested point, very close to the incoming traffic from Braddock, aggravate conflicts with pedestrians and incoming traffic? Don't some cars turn off Braddock into the center much too fast, very close to that driveway? See ZO 4102.1 F(2)(d) Pedestrian and vehicular traffic associated with the use must not be hazardous or conflict with the existing and anticipated traffic in the neighborhood. The bank had very little traffic compared to a McDonalds drive through.
       • Hours/incremental changes — Even if they drop the 24 hour request, how many uses get approved and then come back a few years later for a PCA/SEA to expand operations to 24 hours? Given the pattern of incremental weakening of the promises, why should anyone expect otherwise?
       • Offsite trash — There will be obvious offsite impacts of fast food trash, either windblown or tossed by customers into the bushes of the homes across the street and nearby, 24/7/365. Will the applicant's trash policing include offsite pickups, or just within the shopping center? Is the offsite fast food trash from careless patrons the homeowners' responsibility? See 4102.1 F (2) (a through c)
         • The proposed use at the specified location must be in harmony with the Comprehensive Plan.
         • The proposed use must be in harmony with the general purpose and intent of the zoning district where it is to be located.
         • The proposed use, including its design and operational characteristics, must not adversely affect the use or future development of neighboring properties and must be in accordance with the applicable zoning district regulations. The location, size and height of buildings, structures, walls, and fences, as well as the nature and extent of screening, buffering and landscaping cannot hinder or discourage the appropriate development and use, or impair the value of, adjacent or nearby land or buildings.
         (Should there be fast food drive through uses that close to residential?)
       • Plan logic/automobile oriented compatibility — When the area was planned, certain uses were concentrated located in designated areas [the autopark on Stonecroft, offices in Westfields, the fast food uses on Willard Rd by the Expo Center, etc.]. Why should that organizational logic be abandoned, to introduce an automobile oriented fast food drive through in a residential setting, within a few feet of homes? Why isn't Willard Road still the appropriate location for a cluster of fast food drive throughs? And if McDonalds now can get approved there, are all the other fast food drive throughs appropriate to relocate, in proximity to homes? See 4102.1 F (2) (a through c) again
     • 8:45 — Proposed resolution on the BRPO Rd truck ban reinstatement
     • The joint committee requested that BRPO Rd truck ban be reinstated and it's been over 7 months since the Fx Co BOS voted to endorse the truck ban.
     • The Luck Stone site reclamation had promised to have its drivers to avoid the use of BRPO Rd. Residents are continuing to monitor the goings on at Luck Stone these last several months. They have actively been pursuing their "reclamation project" in earnest. There have been an average of 250 to 300 trucks per day going up and down Route 29 - most of which enter the Luck Stone site to unload and back out again. That's a lot of truck trips.
     • Several trucks go left on BRPO Road after leaving the Luck Stone site and a few come on to Route 29 from BRPO Road. There have also been a few going up and down Pleasant Valley Road. It seems that Luck Stone has a lack of control over these drivers and there's a lack of concern by the FFX police department. Many of these trucks do not have names or operators on the doors. Many others do not display the GVW they are permitted to carry, which was supposedly the law in Virginia. Many look as if they are operating in a third world country. They drag dirt and debris all over Route 29 making it a dust bowl.
     • Since Bull Run Post Office Road crosses the county line into Loudoun County, a resolution is needed from the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors requesting a through truck restriction. There are discussions planned between the Fairfax and PW transportation leaders in the upcoming months, but no date has been set to start the discussion.
     • The nine-month deadline in the statute for the CTB to vote was ignored, after the last Fairfax BOS vote? The General Assembly intended these truck ban requests to move along somewhat faster. This has been simmering for 20 years or so, and folks never quite understood why VDOT took the signs down. There are more trucks now than ever, and there are more folks moving in every week along BRPO Rd, and along Braddock in the South Riding area, more points of conflict between trucks and cars and wildlife.
     • Mike Coyle of Supervisor Smith's staff reports that they’ve been working with the Fairfax Department of Transportation (FCDOT) on restoring this truck restriction. FCDOT will present an Administrative Item at the August 2, 2022, Board of Supervisors meeting to advertise a public hearing on September 13, 2022, for this item. Furthermore, our office also reached out to the Loudoun County Department of Transportation and they stated that they plan to prepare an Item regarding the Truck Restriction before the Loudoun Board of Supervisors in November 2022.
     • Here is a draft resolution to indicate our support of the Reinstatement of Bull Run Post Office Road Truck Ban
     • 9:15 — Recommended position on the proposed FCPS renaming of Chantilly High School
     • 9:30 — Actions to take, if any, based on the recent WP article regarding housing under Dulles Airport flight paths
   
   
8. Scheduled Meetings/Events
   • Sully District Magisterial Naming Discussion 1 September 2022, 7 PM
     
     • Email sully@fairfaxcounty.gov to participate.
     • The Sully District Council of Citizens Associations recommends that our district's name not be changed. See our letter to the Fairfax County Redistricting Advisory Committee. We also recommend that Chantilly High School not be renamed.
   • Celebrate Sully! Community Center Grand Opening on Saturday, September 17, 2022 At 12 Pm
   Come on by for a celebration of Sully Community and the ribbon cutting for the new Sully Community Center! With family activities, performance, food, and more there is sure to be something for everyone!

9. As circumstances permit, next month's Joint Sully District Land Use and Transportation Committee meeting will start at 7 PM in the Sully Government Facility.
• The next Sully District Council meeting will be held on Wednesday, 28 September 2022. There are usually no SDCCA meetings in July and August
  Topic: TBD
• Next month's Joint Sully Land Use and Transportation Committee is scheduled for Monday, 19 September 2022.
  • 7:00 — Special exception amendment to expand the existing Costco gas station at the Chantilly Crossing Shopping Center

Respectfully submitted,

Jeffrey M. Parnes
Land Use and Transportation Chair
Sully District Council